If you are looking for a secure job or a secure investment, don't look to Freshwater Tissue Co. Below is a complete list of the deadlines Freshwater must meet as part of the Cease and Desist Order.  If they miss any one of them, their water permit can be revoked.

October 13, 2010 The date they can start discharging into the Ocean.

February 19, 2011 Submit a revised best management plan (BMPP) to identify measures that the Discharger will take to minimize discharges of BODs and TSS.

December 16, 2010 Provide financial assurances for funding design and construction of the wastewater treatment plant.

December 16, 2010 Submit preliminary project proposal, including a description of the treatment technology selection process.

January 10, 2011 Submit complete application to the County of Humboldt to secure permits for the wastewater treatment plant.

January 10, 2011 Submit complete application to the North Coast Unified Air District for an Authority to Construct Permit for the wastewater treatment plant.

March 16, 2011 Award engineering and design contract for the wastewater treatment plant.

September 12, 2011 Complete 60% level specifications and design drawings.

February 7, 2012 Submit final specifications and design drawings to the Regional Water Board.

April 6, 2012 Issue bid packages for construction contract.

June 6, 2012 Award construction contract.

July 5, 2012 Commence construction of the treatment plant.

October 29, 2013 Complete construction of the treatment plant

January 23, 2014 Full operation of the treatment plant in compliance with permit limits and performance tests.

February 27, 2014 Submit final drawings and results of performance tests.

January 31, 2011 Review monitoring data and conduct initial technology evaluation for dewatering of water  treatment plant solids.

March 14, 2012 Characterize the settling properties of the treatment plant solids for final evaluation of dewatering technologies.

June 12, 2012 Conduct onsite pilot testing.

August 9, 2012 Submit workplan of implementing compliance solution.

November 8, 2012 Submit complete applications for permits necessary to implement compliance solution.

March 7, 2013 Complete and submit engineering design specifications for compliance solution.

May 8, 2013 Award contract for the installation and construction of the compliance solution.

September 5, 2013 Complete construction of the compliance solution.

October 10, 2013 Achieve full operation of the compliance solution and compliance with NPDES permit effluent limits following start-up and initial performance tests.

Interim Limitations for TSS in effect until October 10, 2013.

Until October 10, 2013 they shall maintain compliance with effluent limitations for suspended solids...

The complete cease and desist order is available on the North Coast Regional Water Quality Board website.









Plaintruth
8/17/2010 06:05:23 am

Actually,,,
A very sound,and reasonable schedule. With the promise of a Green Industry. Worthy of any investors consideration.

O and this part'
"Until October 10, 2013 they shall maintain compliance with effluent limitations for suspended solids..."
What part about the permit? allows for this qoute From you all,,"Discharge of pollution" you claim the permit allows for. The fact is the mill will be under regulation standerds,by the way it will be run .When the treatment plant is on line .Then the mill will be run to that capacity that its built to handle.
Kinda simple stuff ,,,,,,,,

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8/17/2010 10:44:17 am

If the mill were up to standards, it would not need a cease and desist order.
Kinda simple stuff.

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8/17/2010 11:03:51 am

I should have made it clear that before October 10, 2013 the mill only has to meet interim limitations for suspended solids and TSS. They will not and can not meet the standards required under the Clean Water Act. Thus, they are being allowed to pollute. It pays to have friends in high places.

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T.P Wypins
8/17/2010 11:33:09 am

West;
As said before,
The mill is only over the lmits when running bleached pulp.They plan to run non-bleached untill the treatment plant is built. Thus meeting the standards required under the Clean Water Act.
Facts are easy to defend.
Again your pulp fiction fails.

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TrollingTheBay
8/17/2010 12:42:22 pm

Hey, how come no one has talked about dihydrogen Monoxide. this stuff sounds really nasty and I hear that the mill puts this stuff into the air and the ocean at a rate of tens of thousands of tons a day.

Check it out. http://www.dhmo.org or just google "Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide".

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Bob Simpson
8/17/2010 10:33:49 pm

If you are looking to remain, unemployed, and you believe the end of the world is coming soon, you need not worry because there is room on Carol's couch staring out her window for black cloud's... or is it black locusts? Darn, its just another evening sunset! She can't pay you, but if you like pulp fiction you will love this part of Grant Street. And some day you may have your own BLOG.




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bozo
8/18/2010 12:11:26 am

And you are going to pay 200 workers an average of $75,000 a year......

HA! These 50 something union workers won't be coming back, at least not most of them.

Tell the truth.

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Billy Goat
8/18/2010 12:47:32 am

The Invisible Killer
Dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO) is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and sickens over 4 billion and kills over 2 million people every year (United Nations World Health Organization, 2008: www.WHO.Int). Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

"Recreational DHMO illness can have a significant impact on public health not only because
of the severity of the illness but also the number of people who die."*

This is the worst hidden danger of that darn mill.

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Bob Simpson
8/18/2010 12:52:00 am

BOZO. Great name for a pulp fictional charachter. The Samoa mill employed a total of 215 workers earning an average of $20/hour x 2,000 hours per year or $40,000. The AWPPW estimates 80% of hourly workers will return. Get off the Gancha man that stuff will turn your lungs black and kill you.

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Billy
8/18/2010 12:59:15 am

Cont'
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!

The Horror Must Be Stopped!
The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the Navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive millions of tons of pure DHMO through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network daily. Many facilities store large quantities for later use.

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Bob Simpson
8/18/2010 01:06:56 am

Bill Goat,

Where do you guys come up with this pulp fiction? DHMO? How many people have been sick or died in that "DARN MILL"?

You could have an exhaust leak in your car and die of carbon monoxide poisoning. So park that wreck, walk to Grant Street and take a seat on Carol's couch!



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Billy
8/18/2010 01:14:13 am

"We all know Truth"of this highly toxic solvent,,,,
Contamination Is Reaching Epidemic Proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California. DHMO contamination is even found in most cells in the human body!

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Billy
8/18/2010 01:17:13 am

Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
contamination has been found in all floodwaters where death has occurred and violent thunderstorm rains containing destructive lightning.
changing from crystalline to liquid is a leading cause of the destruction of arctic ice and glaciers

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Billy
8/18/2010 01:20:01 am

Mr Simpson ,
What are your plans to "curtail" the use of this "Toxic Solvent"

Bill

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bozo
8/18/2010 01:50:49 am

Dihydrogen monoxide H2O is water for those of you who don't get the joke.

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Billy
8/18/2010 01:53:28 am

Bozo,
Deny that DHMO is a highly toxic solvent. Responsible for many thousands of deaths a year.

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TrollingTheBay
8/18/2010 02:04:10 am

The name should have given you a clue as to what I was up to... Trolling...

Dihydrogen Monoxide or H20 is water, pure and simple.

The site I gave and others like it have been used in the past to show that peoples' fear or chemicals will make them believe anything without questioning it.

If you need proof google "Dihydrogen Monoxide Hoax" or just wikipedia DHMO.

There is even a great video on youtube of Penn and Teller get people to sign a petition to ban water.

If you go back to dhmo.org and read it all again with water in mind you will see that every thing said is true, anything can be hyped up to be the worst stuff in the world. This is why TRUE science, not politics or cookie-cutter ideals, need to rule the EPA.

Have a nice day all.

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Bill
8/18/2010 02:12:40 am

I find playing down the discharge Of DHMO into the ocean.And the effect it has on the NaCL content. To be a very careless attitude.

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TrollingTheBay
8/18/2010 02:19:12 am

LOL. A troll trying to troll The Troll.

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Bill
8/18/2010 02:30:34 am

Yes its been fun.
But it does show that sites like this Blog,and many others. Wich raise alarm with this style misleading information Must be exposed.

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T.P.Wypins
8/18/2010 02:52:17 am

Bill;
Speaking to exposing,
There is some information.That this site is funded by a law firm out of San Francisco.

Collette Erickson Farmer & O'Neill LLP
A San Francisco Law Firm Victorious in Bogus Lawsuit Involving Environmental Cases.Delights in a huge ruse used by environmental attorneys, a little-known law called the Equal Access to Justice Act.Allows them to tie up a company, and then black mail them with an out of court settelment.

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Bob Simpson
8/18/2010 02:52:37 am

DHMO is H20, or water. It is found in every tumor and it will cause corrosion. And yes, it is present in acid rain. Once agin, this is how pulp fiction gets spread. For all of you who fell for this joke that first appeared three years ago, please take a seat on Carol's couch and wait for the next black cloud to appear.

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Billy
8/18/2010 02:57:30 am


Mr Simpson ,
What are your plans to "curtail" the use of this "Toxic Solvent" DHMO.

Bill

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T.P
8/18/2010 03:06:22 am

It seems most here running this blog .Have been prepetuating the"joke" By releasing false information on the Pulp Mill for sometime now.

T Wypins

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Bob Simpson
8/18/2010 03:15:26 am

Billy,

I intend to resume using 15 million gallons of H20/day.

Please take a seat on Carol's couch.

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Jack Offtenoff
8/18/2010 03:22:00 am

Googling David Sang.It seems he has been arrested in his home land China.
And may be facing execution,for his failure to complete his mission of industrial espionage.
It seems using this mill as a front.He was to discredit and collapse the American Pulp & Paper industry.

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Jack
8/18/2010 03:23:50 am

typo,,David Tsang

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Billy
8/18/2010 03:32:11 am

Mr Simpson
I understand the mill has a large dependence on DHMO. And I am on your side. I was just asking if there are plans to reduce the need to discharge such high volumes of DHMO out into the sea.

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Jack
8/18/2010 03:51:20 am

TP,
You said
There is some information.That this site is funded by a law firm out of San Francisco.

Collette Erickson Farmer & O'Neill LLP
A San Francisco Law Firm Victorious in Bogus Lawsuit Involving Environmental Cases.Delights in a huge ruse used by environmental attorneys, a little-known law called the Equal Access to Justice Act.Allows them to tie up a company, and then black mail them with an out of court settelment.

Now that stuff with the Tsang arrest in China. Makes for some intresting Facts.

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Bob Simpson
8/18/2010 03:57:04 am

Billy,

The Samoa mill once consumed 30 million gallons of water per day. Numerous improvements have allowed the Samoa mill to cut its water consumption to 15 million gallons/day. So as previously stated, we expect to consume and discharge 15 million gallons of water (H20) per day.

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Billy
8/18/2010 04:02:22 am

Thank you sir,,,,

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Billy
8/18/2010 04:05:47 am

Mr Simpson,
Is it fair to say, That when the mill runs Brown stock only. It is found to be well in compliance of EPA standerds.

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Bob Simpson
8/18/2010 04:18:10 am

Billy,

The Samoa mill could not "consistently" comply with BOD standards when running brown stock or bleached pulp.

I encourage everyone to read the link below. I think you will find this consistent with our business plan story.

http://www.economyincrisis.org/content/illegal-chinese-paper-subsidies-hurting-us

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Billy
8/18/2010 04:32:27 am

Mr Simpson
Can and will steps be taken,to reduce BOD's. Untill such time that the treatment plant goes into service.

Also thanks for the link. I am very aware of this problem with China. I have heard that or own Senate has fully all 100 of them sighned a letter to the president on this issue. Calling for an investigation.

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Bob Simpson
8/18/2010 05:38:06 am

Billy,

Yes we will take steps to reduce BOD.

It is important for everyone to understand the Samoa mill's BOD maybe a regulator problem but it isn't a pollution problem.

The Samoa mill's BOD impact is in fact wood sugar (methanol. In fact, it is biofuel similar to that produced from corn, sugar cane, beets, or any other organic plant. The objective is to capture the wood sugar before it enters our industrial water stream and to send it to our boiler where it burned to generate heat to produce steam and electricity. Therefore, when BOD is not captured and instead is discharged to the Pacific Ocean, the Samoa mill loses a tremendous financial opportunity. Needless to say, BOD is a costly mistake for the Samoa mill, but a great meal for fish. But it is not a pollution problem for the Pacific Ocean as Carol would like to depict.

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sugar
8/19/2010 12:38:53 am

Simpson you got pwned by the posters on the Humboldt Herald, they proved what you are. Why don't you crawl back to Stockton and stop giving these poor ex mill workers such false hope?

50 percent of them at least have moved on, so you will never hire back 80 percent that is a flat out lie.

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Bob Simpson
8/19/2010 05:26:59 am

Is that Sugar or Vinegar?

Take your rant up with Nathan Zink of the AWPPW. He contacted every member and took a poll with a result of 80%.

Thank you for your relocation offer. I decline. I grew up in Ukiah; I live in Healdsburg; and Eureka will be my home when the Samoa mill is restarted.

I am always amazed how casully people use the word lie. I suspect you are often accused of lying so you just accept name calling as normal behavior. In my opinion, its rather juvenile. I haven't heard the term liar used since I was in grammar school.

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Ex-P
8/19/2010 06:51:01 am

Thank you Mr Simpsom

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Ex-P
8/19/2010 06:52:24 am

And that was 83% by the way !

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Steve
8/19/2010 06:25:20 pm

Mr. Simpson
It seems like you must be spending a lot of time on your own couch surfing blogs yourself.
If you're so sure of yourself and the project, why do you resort to insults?

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Bob Simpson
8/20/2010 11:49:48 pm

I think you need to need to read each of the blogs again. I do my best to avoid using condescending remarks. But when someone, like "sugar" makes a disrespectful remark I guess I just feel the need to respond.

I have devoted a portion of my time to Carol's blog to provide facts for those who care. I have come to believe there are people who are incapable of distinguishing fact from friction.

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well its 2013, the mill is long gone and has been almost completely parted out, former employees have left or taken jobs below their accustomed pay, Bob has made his money (although I do believe he tried to resurrect the plant) and everyone feels let down. But by who? the state? higher up? local anti pulp mill factions? the prez? who knows and at this point does it really matter?

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