Freshwater Tissue Co. has five letters of support on their website from Representative Thompson and other dignitaries.  These letters were sent to support a loan application to EXIM, the Export Import Bank of the United States.  We contacted EXIM and they said that they had no such application, and furthermore that they had no program that would grant such a loan in the U.S. The question is whether Freshwater didn't know or whether they were trying to create the impression that they might receive funding.

Also, note there is a Los Angeles Times article dated today on Eureka and the pulp mill.  Among other things, it says that Freshwater might sell off its boiler to a company in Canada. 

Increasingly, this looks like a company in trouble, but not because of us.  Note Bob Simpson's comments on this blog.  This does not sound like they came from the President of a company with a secure future.

Wypins
9/9/2010 12:59:44 pm

LOL

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ME
9/9/2010 02:31:55 pm

Killed the future jobs Binder ,,Wont forget !

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49er
9/10/2010 06:39:00 am

The picture on your blog that you have used before- is not of the Pulp Mill Stack. (the mill has never had black smoke and do not burn anything that will make black smoke) That smoke is from the power plant down the street).

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Frank
9/10/2010 08:14:28 am

I was there when the picture was taken. It wasn't Fairhaven's plume, it was from Evergreen. Those of us living in west Eureka know the difference between the two facilities and their emissions. The lightness or darkness of the pulp mill's plumes varied from day to day for a number of reasons. Everyone living near the mill knows this. This has nothing to do with "burning".

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49er
9/10/2010 08:39:32 am

Frank

I worked there for over forty years and never saw black smoke from our stack.

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Bob Simpson
9/10/2010 09:40:14 am

Carol,

If ignorance could be monetized you are worth billions. We didn't file an application for their typical loan against inventory and foreign receivales. We are working on a unique financing package. Senator Feinstein and Boxer are both involved.

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Nate Zink Local 49 President
9/10/2010 12:14:48 pm

Carol, Carol, Carol...your ignorance and lack of proper information astound me. First, the pulp mill DOES NOT produce black smoke. EVER! PERIOD! Admit when you are mistaken and move on. Second, millions of dollars, time and effort were put in to ensure proper precautions to keep the plant environmentally sound. Again, you are wrong! Third, having worked in the aforementioned caustisizing department the chemicals listed are carefully stored, utilized and recycled in the pulping process, not haphazardly dumped into the ocean and discharged into the air. You are wrong again! Lastly, the list of chemicals you posted can be found anywhere, in our day-to day lives here in Humboldt County and are not segregated strictly to the pulp mill. Educate yourself, get the facts and present to the public accurate information, not slanted and skewed propaganda designed to sway the similarly uninformed.

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Frank
9/10/2010 03:41:03 pm

Come on. No one's talking about black smoke. We're talking about visible appearance of the mill's plumes which varied in opacity for various reasons. Surely you know that there is a standard system for measuring opacity and that this is monitored in standard regulatory reports. How childish do you think we are? "Black smoke" has never been our concern. You're just playing games like the "bad odor" game. As for Mr. Zink's comment, our concerns with mill chemical emissions (HAPs) is backed by bodies of information and studies about pulp mills in general and, locally, material from EPA, CARB, and local Air Quality Management reports. At least give us credit for being educated adults. Sorry if our knowledge and concerns puncture holes in your pulp mill mythology.

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Oliver
9/10/2010 03:54:57 pm

Let me see, which is it? Mr. Simpson's statement reported by John Driscoll in today's Time-Standard that "We are continuing to work on raising the funds to reopen the mill but it doesn't appear we will be successful"; or a "unique deal" being negotiated by Senators Boxer and Feinstein. And what about the recovery boiler sale to Canada? By the way, of course the air is full of all kinds of chemicals in an industrial society. However, science and government regulatory law has determined that some kind of facilities are especially in need of monitoring (like pulp mills) and this is why they are required to have Title V permits and to report regularly on their toxic air emissions, to such programs as the California "Hot Spot" list and other regulatory records. I have seldom seen such massive denial. Except perhaps on the part of British Petroleum.

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Steve
9/10/2010 11:17:55 pm

Yes you could see visible plumes like in the photo at times.
And Oliver makes a point. If he's so sure about funding, how come the Times Standard says he said otherwise?

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49er
9/11/2010 01:19:48 am

Just like this blog you cannot believe everything that is written in the Times-Standard. The pen is mightier than the sword, because most people believe what they read not the truth. How can we know the truth when words and data are twisted?
Each pulp mill is different the mill in Samoa is the only mill in the US that does not use chlorine. Chlorine is one of the major reactive chemicals that create the other compounds that are of concern. I suggest that you use data from a chlorine free operation and not try to tell people that you know all about what the pulp mill discharges until you see the data.

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9/11/2010 03:17:51 am

May 13, 2005 Unannounced Site Visit by Tetra Tech EM Inc. accompanied by staff of the North Coast Unified Air Quality Management District.

"OBSERVATIONS:

1. Fugitive Emissions- multiple sources of emissions and odors were evident.

a. VOC and odor: Overflow from tanks of process liqquid in bermed areas and filled bermed areas in a few cases. ...

b. SOx and H2S: sulfuric acid tank area, bermed area was observed to be full, block hose on concrete with periodic puff of odorous emissions, liquid spilled/leaked on concrete pad.

c. VOC and odor:Multiple drains receiving liquid or containing flowing liquid.

2. Uncontrolled Sources- mulltiple sources were observed

a.VOC and Odor: Brown stock washer vicinity

b. PM: Recovery boiler. Near exhaust fans and floor number visible entrained grey to black particulate matter circulating inside the recovery boiler building; grey powder accumulation on hand railings inside building...

d. VOC and odor: Strong odors present at 'pressing operations. Open vat "press' has no hood, open to atmosphere via random open or missing square panels...

3a Stronger odors present near the stacks...

4. Opacity

a. Tetra Tech noted that based on visual observation, opacity could be a possible issue for recovery boiler stack emissions.

5. Housekeeping...

b. Debris- Pulp debris from various process stages on cement floor of downstairs of process building. Debris formed a soft of dry carpet of pulp and grey/black ashy material on cement pad outside near the sulfur tank/caustic operations area and drains. Rain in the short term weather forecast could contribute to additional material outside near open weak BLS pool. Loose debris could blow into the open tank of weak BLS....

d. Spills, leaks. Evidence of multiple wet patched on concrete, active liquid flow from overflow, active liquid lleaks. active drips from overhead on path of tour, multiple active gaseous/steam leaks in overhead process piping outside and dry white powder deposits on wide area of equipment near caustic operations."

You can argue that upgrades have been made (hopefully), but you cannot say that this is an accurate report presented at a meeting of the Air Quality Board. It is also of roughly the same period as the picture on our website was taken.

How can millworkers and owners be so irate that we would question them especially in the light of the multiple violations on record for the pulp mill?
Are you just used to bullying any opposition and getting your way?


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9/11/2010 03:20:59 am

Sorry typo. The sentence should have read: "...but you cannot say that this is not an accurate report presented at a meeting of the Air Quality Board."

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/Anom
9/11/2010 03:50:34 am

If any of these things were of any consequence they would all be picked up at the outfall monitoring station. As for dirt and dust in the Recovery area why call it gray matter, because it sounds better on the report.
I was employed at the mill at that time and after that inspection, we were all directed to clean it all up.
If the health department goes to a restaurant and finds things amiss, they also are directed to clean it up.

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Cricket
9/11/2010 08:49:31 am

More denial! So wrapped up in the pulp worker life experience that mill workers are apparently unable to comprehend the big picture: how over long periods of time a pulp mill detrementally effects nearby neighborhoods. Again, this is scientific fact and accepted by most of the world and denying it is the equivalent of fundamentalist Christians denying evolution. What Tetra-Tech found in 2005 were indications of poor maintenance and poor operating practices. There was a surprise raid shortly before Evergreen took over and similar problems were found. The analogy with a restaurant and health inspections is correct, but who wants to eat in a dirty restaurant? Besides, when the health department keeps finding violations, the restaurant gets shut down. The idea that the function of government regulatory agancies is merely to help a facility 'improve' with slap on the wrist fines may have been true here in the past when the Good Old Boys controlled everything and there weren't well educated people living in west Eureka. Times have changed. Deny all you want but we have the truth on our side and plenty of evidence to prove it. And please, please don't ask me again what evidence. We've tried to explain this again and again and questions like that are pathetic. Anyway, if the mill should ever start up again, such denial will be irrelevant. Matters, should it be necessary, will be settled in the regulatory agencies and courts, where pulp mill worker mythology will not have a standing.

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T.P
9/11/2010 09:05:49 am

We see the big picture Cricket. Its called, working for our money ! We dont just complain and collect a check.

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Oliver
9/11/2010 09:12:51 am

49er, you are living in the past. Apparently you're new to this blog and aren't aware that this chlorine thing was disposed of here weeks ago. None of the people on this blog oppossing the miil are concerned with the chlorine issue. We know this is a TCF mill, and that it was forced to make this change as a result of an environmental suit. There is a long history in Eureka of opposition to the Samoa mill. However, most of us on this blog arguing against a reopening became active during the Stockton-Pacific/Evergreen period. Our concerns have been primarily with air emissions from this PARTICULAR chlorine free mill. We know the difference between pulp mills in general and particular pulp mills. We have looked at data from various mills and we have especially examined government reports concerning the Samoa mill, before and after, the change to a chlorine free operation. Just a bit of advice, when you are arguing with an opponent you're making a big mistake when you intentionally underestimate his ability, intelligence, and resources.

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Cricket
9/11/2010 09:32:20 am

T.P, my father was a heavy equipment operator-the last years he worked he was in constant pain. My mother was a welder in WWII and worked various other jobs all her life and I also worked hard all my life. Is there something dishorable about receiving social security and a pension I paid into for 30 years? Don't you want to retire someday? Have you been so brainwashed that you don't understand the common interests of working class people? Don't you understand the disregard and disrespect for the lives and interests of working class people, their families and children, that went into the decision to build polluting pulp mills on the edge of a working class neighborhood? Of course jobs are important but when rich factory owners are allowed to 'create jobs' at the expense of the health and safety of ordinary working class people this should be resisted. There are two ways to be working class; either with intelligence, strength and pride, or with subservient meekness (kiss the boss' a--). I guess we all make our own choices.

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Bob Simpson
9/12/2010 07:53:53 am

Do any of you who read this pulp fiction blog really believe Carol Binder could call a Federal bank, reach the same person in Washington that I spoke with and find out the status of our discussion? Short answer....NO. But if you feel then need, call Gray Sasser in Washington, D.C. In the meantime, find a new leader that speaks the truth.

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Anon
9/12/2010 10:44:18 am

What about the cartoon in Sunday's Times-Standard Bob? What about that recovery boiler? Getting nervous?

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westsider
9/12/2010 11:02:23 am

I don't know about the Bank, but I will be following up on my letters to Representative Thompson and Senators Feinstein and Boxer. By the way, what is the difference between a loan application and a "discussion"? There seems to be a pretty big gap between what you're saying on this blog and current reports in the local media (newspaper and TV).

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Tom
9/12/2010 04:49:06 pm

It's nice to know you people believe so strongly in the power of the people so much that you think this blog singlehandedly brought the mill down. Perhaps you should look elsewhere for your blame.

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Grant st
9/13/2010 12:39:13 am

And the first time I posted that info it got deleted,,,,,,,,,,,,

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T.P
9/13/2010 12:43:56 am

Tom
This blog just gives us a chance to vent on those who know nothing of the truth about the mill.
Your right if it dont run its not because of anything this blog did. Its just the state of the world at this time.
And I am happy that all of you got to work and raise familys here with your jobs,,Most of us now must move away.

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Bob Simpson
9/13/2010 12:55:44 am

As an indication of my transparency, here is a recap of my EXIM Bank dialogue.

I had an initial conference call with Jim Lucchesi of EXIM San Francisco. At the conclusion of the call Freshwater and the State of California were advised EXIM's charter allowed EXIM to make the loan we described. But EXIM Washington would need to decide whether to stretch the "current boundaries" of their loan program. We were advised to seek support from State leaders and our Federal representatives. We received support letters from the Governor, Assembly Speaker Perez, Assembly and members Chesbro and Evans. In addition, calls to EXIM were made by Senator(s) Feinstein & Boxer and a letter was sent by Congressman Thompson. Additional letters were sent by Labor Union leaders.

EXIM's Chairman directed Gray Sasser, who is Senior VP of political affairs to work with us. Gray arranged a conference call and he was joined by two other VP's for EXIM Washington. At the conclusion of the conference call EXIM notified Freshwater that it could not make the loan requested.

Regardless of our failure with EXIM, our investment banker received an equity offer over the weekend, and we expect additional offers this week. If an equity deal is put in place then bank financing will be available. While it is too early to predict success, we certainly have not thrown in the towel.

By the way, it seems Carol's view from her house is more pulp fiction! Way to go Carol. Your credibility is destroyed.

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9/13/2010 01:44:56 am

I talked with EXIM Bank this morning and indeed, they don't grant such loans domestically. In addition, they require an E.P.A. Clearance on all their loans.

What we wrote in this article on EXIM was the truth. Still, Mr. Simpson used it as a chance to call us names. It seems that he has chosen us as a way to take the heat off of himself. He was gambling with this whole enterprise. He didn't have the money or the plan to make it work. But, now he won't take any responsibility. He just points to us and throws insults and calls us names. If he had a solid plan, he wouldn't bother with us. Mill workers should be looking to Bob Simpson for honest answers.

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9/13/2010 02:55:39 am

Nobody really cares about whether I can see the smokestack or not. It is the street name that I object to. When the mill was running I could not see the smokestack, but I could clearly see the plume. That discussion is a distraction from the main idea here. Pulp mill pollution---Lack of funding---Does Mr. Simpson have a prayer of starting the mill or is he just getting everyone excited for nothing?

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Jim
9/13/2010 02:55:44 am

Simpson is trying,,,This blog is just lying,,,,,,See the facts ! And not the fake view out your window , couchers. Gonna delete this too ?

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Jim
9/13/2010 02:57:52 am

But you stated in the L.A. papers and others that you look out your window and see the stacks . RIGHT !

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Grant st
9/13/2010 03:00:38 am

Could it be ? Your credibility is destroyed.

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T.P
9/13/2010 03:02:52 am

At this point the blog has been loaded and copyed. Delete what you must. But come ,on caught in a lie ,,,speaks to you directly,,,,,,

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Frank
9/13/2010 09:40:06 am

How trivial and irrelevant can comments get? Anyone who has lived in west Eureka for any time knows that when the mill is in operation its plumes (yes, plumes, there are more than one) can be seen from various locations in west Eureka. At some locations, for example B Street, A Street, California St., Grocery Outlet, etc., the actual tall stack and other outlet points are easily visible. What's the big deal? Obviously the person who created this blog has been in communication with other local residents who oppose the Samoa mill. When Evergreen was in operation there were neighborhood organizing meetings where these things were discussed. No point is being made because there's none to be made.

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westsider
9/13/2010 10:18:29 am

Gee Bob, I've just finished watching Channel 3's "exclusive" and phone interview with you. I thought it was going to be a real story like the announcer promised, but I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed. I hope one of those mysterious "entities" isn't dad, or that brother. I was also hoping you'd tell us all what you've been doing over the past 15 years since being let go as General Manager for L-P Northwest. How about filling in the bio with some specifics.

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Jim
9/13/2010 11:31:19 am

Did you catch that even the residents of Samoa want to keep the mill open ?

And the point of the "View " is that Carol can be qouted as saying. "I look out my window and see the smoke stack."
What is that,just for dramatic effect ? Or an exagerated lie ?

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Grant st
9/13/2010 12:18:37 pm

Frank I live right here on W-Grant.
And I say your full of shite !

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Bob Simpson
9/13/2010 10:31:48 pm

Carol,

Who did you speak to at EXIM Bank? Read my earlier blog. I provided facts and I have two Senators, a Congressman and a Governor who will back me up.

Carol, you wouldn't know the truth because that word isn't in your vocabulary. You spew pulp fiction to support your stories. Just like the view from your window. I will not allow your lies to continue because you are harming too many lives in this community.

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Bob Simpson
9/13/2010 10:37:15 pm

Carol,

One more point regarding EXIM Bank. EXIM loans to U.S. companies all the time. In fact, they just made a loan to Ford Motors. EXIM requires that you have inventory on the ground and foreign receivables. Now I suspect that's beyond your capacity to understand but the rest of the readers will know what I am talking about.

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9/14/2010 03:04:24 am

There were no lies about EXIM. As I said earlier, I talked to Mr. Gardella Vice President at EXIM. He said that there was no application from Freshwater which is true, and that they did not grant such loans domestically which is true. This is what I said in the article. This is also what you acknowledged in one of your posts. What is the problem? Where is the part that is not true? I never said that you did not discuss it with EXIM, but a discussion is not an application. Are you just trying to muddy the issue with your threats and namecalling? Is this what has worked for you in the past?

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Frank
9/14/2010 04:05:10 am

Grant St, In my last post I didn't mention your address, which I don't know. I simply interated a well know fact, that there are many locations in west Eureka where the tall stack or plume emission points from the Samoa mill are plainly visible. To say that because you can't see something from your house proves other people at other locations can't see it is incredible illogic. 'I can't see it, so it's not there??' What are you smoking? Don't you ever leave the house?

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